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(ethereal music) (upbeat music) Good morning, George. It's nice to see you. Nice to see you, Jenny. Good morning to you. So can you please share your cultural background, how that influenced your leadership style? I was born to amazing parents who raised me in a middle-class household in India with strong values. And I also was educated at a Catholic school in India that had the motto of, "Faith and Toil," and so my values have really shaped who I am. And one of the important things that my parents gave me also was the support and confidence that even in the midst of failure, we were not failures if we had given our best, and so that gave us the confidence to take risk. And the biggest risk we took was actually leaving home to come to the United States, which was a great adventure for me and my brother when we did so. Yeah, you have a great adventure after that. Yes, that's right. So I think one other thing Asian American and Pacific Islander Community is talking about is the challenge here. One of the challenges would be the community was perceived as moralistic. That's right. As an Asian American, what's your comment about that? How did you navigate it and to become successful? I think that stereotypes are a way for simplifying problem-solving. And they are both... They can be damaging, right? I think that Asia, for example, has 60% of the world's populations. So saying everybody from Asia looks and feels the same is actually very damaging. It's actually just not true. I think that similarly, labeling Asian Americans as the model minority is also devastating for many elements of the community that need representation and access to opportunity and struggles with the same challenges that so many other groups deal with, whether they have majority groups or minority groups. And so I actually think it's just a mistake when you try to group a huge number of people without seeking to understand the individuals. And so I really try to kind of always seek to understand the individual. And if it's worth caring for somebody, then it's really important to understand the individual. Yes, their ecosystem, their cultural background is an innate part of who they are, but every individual makes the world unique and better. And so it's just, it's important that you take the time to understand each person for who they are. So you mentioned a lot. I Googled you. So about your parents, how did they influence who you become? It has been my greatest blessing to have been born to two amazing parents who were the real entrepreneurs in our family. My dad was the first to go to school in college in his family, my mother was a remarkable woman. She was so many years ahead of her time in India, where... She just did not believe in gender roles and she had four boys. So we were fortunate to grow up in a household where she actually just made us feel like we could do anything and held us accountable to do everything. They taught us the values of honesty, humility, and discipline, and being accountable. One of the things that my parents always taught us was that we were given opportunity because of the circumstances that we were born in, not because of any entitlement that we had to that. So we had to be grateful for that opportunity and be responsible to do our very best because there were so many people around us that never had access to the opportunities we had. And I still remember that if we ever complained about something, my mom would literally load us in the car or tell us to get on the bus and we would go to the orphanage that she worked in. And she would point to us and say, "You could be one of those kids. I expect better from you." So we still carry that with us. So George, you have said, it's your privilege to be your mother's son. And what's your favorite story about her? There are so many. She was a lifelong learner, she loved meeting people, and she was so willing to make sacrifices for others. There was a time where you had to go and... Textbooks in India were not commonly available. You had to go and stand in these extraordinarily long lines, and my mom would do it not only for us, but for so many other families that needed textbooks and whose moms couldn't go and stand in line. I recently was standing in line for a passport for my daughter a couple weeks ago, and I was telling her that story, and it reminded me that I have been so blessed to have been the son of my mom. Thank you for sharing that. Have you raised your own children the same way? Certainly. That's our aspiration. If I could be half as good a parent as my mom was, I think that it would be a gift to them. I try to teach them that, to love the process of working hard, the toil part, that there's growth, and there's development, and it's a blessing to work hard. And I also teach them the faith part, that you're not as bad as you think you are when you aren't doing well. And you're not as awesome as you think you are when you succeed. There's lots more things that make the world what it is. Thank you for sharing your amazing experience and the lovely story about your mom, and how your upbringing and culture has shaped who you are today. Thank you.
A conversation from AAPI Month with NetApp CEO George Kurian and founder of Himalaya Quantitative Solutions, Jenny Yu, about how they have learned from and chosen to honor their heritages while charting their path to career success.