[music] Hello everyone, welcome back. I'm Dario Lope here for the VMware floor here at Barcelona and I have with me the pleasure to be with David Bay from class sol manager at VMware and I have also hes wagna from net solut. So, welcome guys. Pleasure to meet you here.>> Thanks for being here. >> A pleasure for us. >> I like it. >> I don't expect German, but hey, maybe we'll try in the future, but for now, >> we'll find a way. >> Really true. >> Nice. [laughter] >> So, I would like to start kind of how do you see or what what's the points in common that we have between VMware and NetApp stories regarding the freedom of choice and the data fabric story that we have at NetApp? Howwould you point it out? Yeah, Ithink um in history we saw manytimes a good partnership between us and um now we have a new situation in uh in the future where we need to live data on a new way and uh from our partnership here. It finds a fine way to come again together to build up new ways for data for the data moving into the cloud for build up new solutions like containering with onremise um storage bringing in the cloud uh the persistent storage moving and that could be easy in together from VMware and NetApp. So it is the history from VMware and NetApp. It works. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We have been working together for 20 years, right? So >> what would you say toadd to Thomas? >> Well, I listened today at the keynote and what was very interesting for me was that I found some similarities. So,we are talking about the data fabric since years. So having the right data at the right place where you need it completely independent freedom of choice where youneed it to be located and uh as today Ragu told about this how can we manage to do the same for compute I thought hey well that fits perfect it's we are there for delivering the freedom of choice for the data and we comes into the game and does more or less the same for the compute layer. Yeah, that's powerful. How do you see this? Because I understand that when we are starting to work with multiple clouds, hybrid, onrem, all the stuff that should be adding some complexity, right? How it look like? >> Oh, everything's easy in cloud. No, just kidding. That'sexactly the point where the fun begins. So the people think about cloud as simple and yes, if you're doing it in the right way, it is really simple. But 3 to four years ago, everyone started to say, hey, we are going really cloud native. We are doing the transformation and right now guess what they are running out of time because it's verycomplex and >> so they need rearchitecture and all of that right >> yeahand I and that's a part where the BMC solution comes into the game or not what you not uh forget in this situation you jumping into the cloud but what is in the situation you want out >> yeah wedon't have any standards withEC2 to any other cloud systems so thething is that we need to have a bridge between onrem as well uh world and all the other multi cloud systems thatwe need on the data layer that we need on the compute layer that we need in the uh management layer so that you can move your data and your workload from one cloud to other cloud and bring your data to this place where you need your place for your business to build up business. Yeah. and not moving data with many>> different tools complex >> yeah complexity and youdon'tknow how you come back from that situation in another situation so that the it is toofast uh moving around that you can put your data on one place and uh you are lucky for the next 100 years >> yeah and rely on just like that so you are kind of avoiding the cloud locking or maybe enable customers to stay with the freedom of choice and freedom of movement. I love that. Okay. And I would like to maybe link that. So howis that synchronization between clouds maybe with net app? Like for example, can we use a snap mirror, right? Can we move it across? So it's no problem. What would you say like what would be the key benefit of running onrem netup and moving into VMware cloud for example or other uh VMware solutions out there? I >> I think that it's notonly or it does more and I like it. So,your data in an onremise world running there and the reason there's a reason for thatthe uh data they are running but there are some new business cases and for your business you need your data and that is something where you grow up your data bridge into the cloud and uh the partnership here between NetApp on premise and the cloud mode is awesome. >> It's awesome. Yeah. You can just move it across.>> Yeah. Anduh you said something uh really good here. So for me it's not thisand or so this No, wedon't do this next evolution to cloud. It's an addition. If we're if we are thinking back there were many great technologies and none of them is gone because we are doing more and more with IT services. That's why we need more and more solutions and so cloud is just an addition to our existing portfolio and say okay there are workloads there that are perfectly placed in an on-remise data center or in an edge site but there are also workloads >> especially those short times or peaky workloads or maybe you have to you have a data center where you don't want to have the building and there the cloud is good solution so there are no bad solutions it is >> this is a mix of everything >> itis a mix and Um the uh the complex thing right now is really to choose okay which solution should I >> go for and uh that's why the people are asking for common things. So that'swhat my customers asking me hey I'mused to work with onep can I have onep in the cloud and that's the same we are here in >> managing with v center right >> and another big topic is you have your administrators the guys who working 20 years now with netapp they know that solution we have the solution they take that solution manyyears they manage that solution manyyears. They are trust with the solution and it is for the orchestration and for the management like likely the same every day if it runs in the cloud or on the onremise side and that is also something what you need to have in your brain that people work on this topic and the people need to know what they do with everything. Um >> yeah you cannot afford risk right unknowns zero knowns all same organizational equal >> youknow data are the gold of today >> that's it >> so why you should play around with this data>> we don't want that that's great >> okay so I appreciate it guys your time bringing here this interesting ideas I appreciate you guys be watching here at Net TV so stay tuned for the latest and greatest updates and thank you very much once again >> thank you too >> thanks for watching Net NetApp TV coverage of BMware Explorer in Barcelona. Don't forget to click the link below if you want to know more about how NetApp and VMware are better together.