[music] Hey guys, Nick Howell here at AWS reinvent in the NetApp booth in the expo and I'm joined by Fathom Kamal uh of AWS. Fathom, introduce yourself if you would and what do you do here at AWS? >> Thank you Nick. Um thank you for having me. I am a senior storage uh solutions architect here with AWS and I work on a couple of services within the storage realm and FSX on tap uh is one of the service that I specialize in. Uh I'm here doing some chalk talks and you know supporting workshops out here at reinvent.>> Nice. So how did you find yourself at AWS? I understand that your background was from one of our other mutual customers of Blackboard. >> That is correct. So prior to AWS, it's been a year and a half since I've been with AWS. So prior to that I've been working with a customer called Blackboard. you're one of the biggest education uh provider here within the US and I was there for about 12 years and I worked on NetApp technology for over 15 years right uh with I mean within blackboard we have had like a huge form of NetApp on premises and one of the challenge was getting all that data onto AWS right and so we have you know looked at many different services and you know wefound out CVO to be one of the most effective service to move data onto AWS cloud now that I'm with AWS And we have recently released a service called Amazon FSX for ONTAB. It'ssomething that I've worked on in the past and NetApp is NetApp technology is something I've been working on for a long time. So it's a service that I'm specializing in and I work very actively with the service with customers who are ready to adopt the service to migrate data onto AWS cloud. >> Awesome. Uh I'm very excited about what customers are going to do with FSX on tap as well. I'm anxious to see what kind of extreme performance we can get out of it. Um, you specifically focus on some data protection stuff as well. So, you're familiar with Snapmir and Snap Vault and all the fun flex and snapboards that are to do with Onap. How do you see that playing into data protection when it comes to things like uh the native experience of FSX on uh in the AWS cloud? >> So, you know, data protection is one of the most important conversation that every customer brings about, right? Even before putting the production onto the cloud, right? So, snap mirror is a very important technology you want to use because firstly, you want to make sure your data is moved in a relatively faster period of time uh to a destination file system or to a destination account or region to predict against any kind of region failures, right? So, Snaper is a technology that our customers really rely on to move that data from one file system to another, right? out from one volume to another uh to protect their data against you know anysort of compromises or any corruption against databases etc. Um I have worked extensively primarily with snap mirror for data protection as well as for migration. So it's something that you can use for both purposes, right? If you want to have a huge data set that you want to migrate, use Snap Mirror. It's at a volume level or a block level. It's faster. If you have data protection and you want to have a disaster recovery scenario, you want to leverage the Snap Mirror technology to block the to mirror those blocks uh out to a destination volume.>> Yeah. One of the use cases uh to build on thatI love the most is the people that figure out that once you snap mirror a volume to a certain place, you can clone off of that and do all things like dev test. Uh you can all of that in the cloud as well. So you're killing two birds with one stone there by doing themirroring and the data protection side of it from your mirrors, but you can also then leverage that data. So it's not just about data protection at the end of the day, right? You're getting multiple things. You can even spin offof your Snap Mirror. can then spin off snap fault backups off of your mirror. So you again you're getting datadisaster recovery and backup there at the same time.>> You're right. And especially in a DR scenario where you want do not want to activate your disaster recovery site. You want to keep it effective, but whathappens if you want to test your DR site, right? you want to spin up a flex clone and you know just run your test quickly to see that you have all your runbooks in place everything works as expected your RPO needs are met and then you can shut down the flex clone and your DR environment is not uh you know disturbed at all right so you can keep that in the background so flex clone is another very important technology that you can use to test not just for DR purposes for anything you know if you want to like spin up something which costs no storage then spin up a flex clone it has itbasically is a snapshot of your current volume and it can be up and functional in no time. It's instantaneous. Yeah. >> So, >> So, >> So, >> so for people that uh may be NetApp customers but are looking for the answer of how to get to a into AWS, how do you what do you how would you pitch FSX on tap to them? So if you are a customer, if you're a NetApp on premises customer, then FSX onap isthe solution for you because it's the service for you because you can now use the onap technology to mirror the data with all the networking requirements in place, right? All you need is a direct connect between the on- premises uh data center and your AWS cloud. It's either a VPN or a direct connect, preferably a direct connect, especially if you're sending massive amount of data. So your time is shrunk for that migration. Uh so you know FSX on tap is a veryimportant service that you want to look at especially when you have NetApp on premises. If let's say you don't have NetApp on premises you still can come into FSX on tap using NetApp service called cloud sync right? So you still can transfer all that data to NetApp on premise to NetApp FSX on tap onAWS cloud. Let's say you are new to the cloud and you want to spin up your Oracle databases or any databases in the cloud. You can still use FSX on tap. You can power out a LAN. You can use NFS shares or file system and put your databases on an FSX ontap file system. So you know the options are plenty. You know whatever you want to use based on your requirements based on your uh you know your IOPS your throughput your latency you know FSX on tap can fit all those in the checklist. >> Yeah. So to close this out, Iwanted to highlight some things that Adam did in the keynote andothers in the keynote this morning because we saw a lot of talk about data and I think a lot of the things that AWS is bringing to the table from I think they called it the pathway, the data journey, right? I think is how he referred to it. A lot of it is about data now. So I think for both ONAP and or excuse me for both NetApp and AWS customers understanding what FSX on brings to the table now. It's not just about Windows file shares anymore. You have an actual basically a virtual storage controller in natively managed in the cloud that you can take advantage of for all things across your enterprise. Not only tier one apps but all of your disaster recovery backups, user shares, everything can all be centralized in one place. >> And to add to that, right, so users who do not want to get into, you know, creating a cluster and managing your IP requirements, what do you want to do? You want to spin up an FSX on file system within minutes, right? you thatwhole layer of you know setting up or configuration of a cluster is taken away and you know AWS on uh FSX for ONAP file system makes it easy for you tospin it up in minutes and you have it ready to mount and put your data in. Uh it's not only that it's the integration with other services which is an option that you have. So if you want to use AWS directory service or AWS Macy or guard duty>> I've been playing with SageMaker >> Sage Maker right you can use any of these services to integrate with AWS you know Amazon FS for ONAP so that is another thing that you can leverage on using an AWS native service to put your data on. >> Yeah well Fathma thank you very much forbeing a part of this today and Ithank you for the conversation and taking the time to have a chat with me. >> My pleasure enjoy the rest of the show. >> Thank you. Thank you very much guys.